December 2002 - ntg-context - NTG Mailing Lists

utf (8)
by Hans Hagen 05 Dec '02

05 Dec '02

Hi, I slightly adapted utf 8 support and uploaded a newer version to http://www.pragma-ade.com/context/beta/cont-tmf.zip Also, there is some test material at http://www.pragma-ade.com/context/beta/unitest.zip Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma(a)wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf -------------------------------------------------------------------------

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utf 8
by Hans Hagen 05 Dec '02

05 Dec '02

Hi, I'm uploading a new beta. This one has utf8 as a regime: \enableregime[utf] the xml alternative \useXMLfilter[utf] also works. Some pending issues: how to deal with the utility files and so. I'll look into that as soon as i have to deal with utf cq. hav eproper test files. You should be able to process non western scripts, but the fonts/glyphs are not yet defind (see unic-0*.tex for how we're going to deal with that). Unknown glyphs will show up as a small rule, unless you say: \chardef\utfunicodetracer=1, 2 or 3 There is also a file: http://www.pragma-ade.com/temp/unitest.pdf just to get an idea of this kind of mapping. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma(a)wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf -------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Swedish in lang-ger.tex
by Stefan Karlsson 04 Dec '02

04 Dec '02

Hi Hans, Some weeks ago, before I found this discussion forum, I sent you a mail about Swedish conventions in ConTeXt. Simce I see that no changes have been made in "lang-ger.tex" I repeat my comments here: \installlanguage [\s!sv] [\c!spatiering=\v!opelkaar, \c!leftsentence=---, \c!rightsentence=---, \c!leftsubsentence=---, \c!rightsubsentence=---, % \c!leftquote=\upperleftsinglesixquote, \c!leftquote=\upperrightsingleninequote, \c!rightquote=\upperrightsingleninequote, % \c!leftquotation=\upperleftdoublesixquote, \c!leftquotation=\upperrightdoubleninequote, \c!rightquotation=\upperrightdoubleninequote, % \c!datum={\v!jaar,\ ,\v!maand,\ ,\v!dag}, \c!datum={\v!dag,\ ,\v!maand,\ ,\v!jaar}, \c!status=\v!stop] As you can see "leftquote", "leftquotation" and "datum" ought to be changed. Also, in the Swedish language the symbol represented by "---" doesn't exist; we only use "-" and "--". So I guess "leftsentence", "rightsentence", etc. should be changed too. Regards /Stefan Karlsson

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Indexing macros
by John Culleton 04 Dec '02

04 Dec '02

The "register" macros in Context only provide for a single level index AFAIK so I have been looking at the use of either makeindex or Xindy in a Context project. I have slightly modified the index.tex file from the Texsis distribution and renamed it indexx.tex. Instructions for use are included in the file. The command sequence is: texexec test.tex makeindex test.idx -o test.ind texexec test.tex. The test.tex file is as follows: \input indexx.tex \markindextrue \starttext Hello \page[yes] \idx{Frisbee} \idx{Saucer} \indexx{foo} \indexx{foo!bar} \page[yes] \input test.ind \stoptext The indexx.tex file can be found at: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/indexx.tex Most parties seem to prefer the more capable Xindy to the old standby makeindex. However The Xindy distribution has a program for translating makeindex raw index files to Xindy raw index files. So the indexx.tex macros can be used as a stopgap method now. I will work on another version that will emit Xindy raw files natively. Questions, comments, suggestions welcome :-) -- John Culleton Able Indexers and Typesetters Rowse Reviews Culleton Editorial Services http://wexfordpress.com

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Generating formats.
by Eduardo Cassiraga 03 Dec '02

03 Dec '02

Hi: I am trying to install ConTexT system on my PC. My TeX system is MikTeX and I use Windows 2000. However it's imposible to me generate the formats. When I type the command for that the system answer to me as follow: C:\tmp>texexec --make en TeXExec 3.1 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2002 ! You have to increase POOLSIZE. TeX binary : pdfetex format(s) : en total run time : 0 seconds Can anybody to help me, please? Eduardo F. Cassiraga Departamento de Ingeniería Hidráulica y Medio Ambiente Universidad Politécnica de Valencia C/. Camino de Vera, s/n 46022 Valencia - SPAIN Tel: +34 963 879 613 Fax: +34 963 877 618 E-mail: efc(a)dihma.upv.es

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In-paragraph display
by Giuseppe Bilotta 03 Dec '02

03 Dec '02

Hello, I'm going to bring the discussion back to a sore point that really needs to be cleared. When dealing with displayed material (equations, itemizations, quotations etc) the following four cases are (or rather should be) different: ============================== Case 1: some text before \startdisplay displayed material \stopdisplay some text after ============================== Case 2: some text before \startdisplay displayed material \stopdisplay some text after ============================== Case 3: some text before \startdisplay displayed material \stopdisplay some text after ============================== Case 4: some text before \startdisplay displayed material \stopdisplay some text after ============================== The reason why they should be different is that (1) in case 1 the display is part of the paragraph which includes both the text before, the displayed material, and the text after (2) in case 2 the display is part of a the paragraph which begins with the displayed material and includes the text after, but not the text before (3) in case 3 the display is part of a the paragraph which begins with the displayed material and includes the text before, but not the text after (4) in case 4 the display forms a paragraph on its own Why is this important? Assume for example that the paragraphs are set to have an indent (\setupindenting[medium], for example) and that the indentnext option is set to true. In this case "some text after" would only be indented in cases (3) and (4), but not in cases (1) and (2), since in cases (3) and (4) it starts a new paragraph while in cases (1) and (2) it is part of the previous paragraph. Is it just an impression of mine, or is it true that this is not the case in ConTeXt? The behaviour in all three cases seems to be the same ... -- Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta

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Split floating table
by varheit＠gmx.de 03 Dec '02

03 Dec '02

Hi, i try to typeset a very large table using the Natural Table macros. I would like to place the table as a floating object so it will get numbered and show up in the list of tables. In a recent post, the command \splitfloat was mentioned, but unfortunately, I could not find any documentation that would help me out. I tried the document below, which results in a split table, but all the rows of the table are split on their own. I am using the current beta. Any suggestions? \starttext \chapter{A big table} \splitfloat{\placetable{A big table}} { \bTABLE[split=repeat] \bTABLEhead \bTR \bTH Head1\eTH\bTH Head2\eTH \eTR \eTABLEhead \bTABLEbody \dorecurse{80}{\bTR\bTD Column1\eTD\bTD Column2\eTD\eTR} \eTABLEbody \eTABLE } \stoptext -- +++ GMX - Mail, Messaging & more http://www.gmx.net +++ NEU: Mit GMX ins Internet. Rund um die Uhr für 1 ct/ Min. surfen!

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Re: [NTG-context] DocBookInContext & multi-languages (newbie)
by Hans Hagen 03 Dec '02

03 Dec '02

At 09:30 PM 12/2/2002 +0100, you wrote: >The problem is that that file doesn't contain all > 50000 characters but >only a few (basically latin1 accented characters) right, and for a start we only need to build the second vector, which i didn't -) By the way, I'm looking for a nice looking serif font, which I can use as >math font and which contains at least all MES-1, better also the MES-2 >characters (http://www.evertype.com/standards/iso10646/pdf/cwa13873.pdf) >and the default ligatures used by TeX. >So far I mainly found either WGL4 compatible fonts >(http://partners.adobe.com/asn/developer/opentype/appendices/wgl4.html) or >fonts which can be used for math in TeX, but not both. (At least not >within a amount of money which I can spend ;-) did you try palatino? \usetypescript[palatino][texnansi] \setupbodyfont[palatino,10pt] Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma(a)wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf -------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [NTG-context] DocBookInContext & multi-languages (newbie)
by Hans Hagen 03 Dec '02

03 Dec '02

At 01:48 PM 12/3/2002 +0100, you wrote: >Hi, > >On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, Hans Hagen wrote: > > did you try palatino? >You mean http://www.micropress-inc.com/fonts/pamath/pamain.htm + Palatino? >Otherwise I haven't found anything related to math and Palatino. > >Additionally, Palatino (and/or PAMath) seem to have only the basic letters >from TeX and only little more. Ah, take a look at tex live! search for tx/px fonts; they should work out of the box with the current context [concerning utf-8: i now have rather good converter running] Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma(a)wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf -------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Some \definelayout troubles
by Rob van Swol 03 Dec '02

03 Dec '02

Hi, I want to set a different layout for even and odd pages; so I use something like: \setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided] \definelayout[odd][backspace=4.0cm] \definelayout[even][backspace=2.5cm] This works fine, except I get these extra pages again after \stopstandardmakeup, \stopfrontmatter, and \stopappendices [Note: I applied the following patch to cont-new.tex, Context ver: 2002.10.23 \appendtoks \gdef\shipout{\dowithnextbox{\deadcycles\zerocount}}% \to \everylastshipout ] Any suggestions? Regards, Rob -- Rob W. van Swol National Aerospace Laboratory NLR Tel. +31 527 248252 P.O. Box 153 Fax +31 527 248210 8300 AD Emmeloord E-Mail vanswol(a)nlr.nl The Netherlands http://www.neonet.nl/

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Sanskrit (Devanagari) in ConTeXt
by Gour 02 Dec '02

02 Dec '02

Hi! I saw a PDF describing Chinese support in ConTeXt. It looks beautiful. Anyone has attempted to write Sanskrit (both western transliteration as well as Devanagari script) in ConTeXt? What is required to provide such support? Sincerely, Gour -- Gour gour(a)mail.inet.hr Registered Linux User #278493

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Re: conversie
by Hans Hagen 02 Dec '02

02 Dec '02

At 02:31 PM 11/29/2002 +0100, you wrote: >beste hans, >bestaat er (toevallig) een tool/script voor conversie van een latex >document naar context? >dank niet dat ik weet, misschien iemand op de context lijst Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma(a)wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf -------------------------------------------------------------------------

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new manual
by Hans Hagen 02 Dec '02

02 Dec '02

Hi, I uploaded the (preliminary) manual on color separation (+ a few ntk's): http://www.pragma-ade.com/manuals/general/msplit.pdf this morning i also uploaded a beta version that does these kind of things (although for the moment i keep some possibly dangerous optimizations in my local extension file) Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma(a)wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf -------------------------------------------------------------------------

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quotations
by Hans Hagen 02 Dec '02

02 Dec '02

Hi, Since quotations keep coming up on this list, and since i had a couple of new cd's to help me through the process of cooking up macros, i made an definable quotation macros, or more precise, something: \definedelimitedtext [quotation] [left={\symbol[leftquotation]}, right={\symbol[rightquotation]}, leftmargin=standard] \definedelimitedtext [quote][quotation] \setupdelimitedtext [quotation] [location=text, left={\symbol[leftquote]}, right={\symbol[rightquote]}] and for Mr. BigFoot: \definedelimitedtext [speech][quotation] \setupdelimitedtext [\v!spraak] [repeat=yes, left={\symbol[leftspeech]}, middle={\symbol[middlespeech]}, right={\symbol[rightspeech]}] Now, how do we call an tight quotation that those heavy quoting users want? \definedelimitedtext [xquotation][quotation] \setupdelimitedtext [xquotation] [indentnext=no, spacebefore=nowhite] (there are a couple of more switches) this mechanism will be available in the next beta, but the re-definitions not yet (first i want to make sure that it worsk ok) one can also use this feature for things like [whatever you want to be delimited] Hans I'll look into the epigraph (module) later (never needed them so far) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma(a)wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf -------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [NTG-context] CT mirror university operational
by Hans Hagen 02 Dec '02

02 Dec '02

At 02:50 PM 12/2/2002 +0100, you wrote: >For thos of you who didn't know: > > http://context.ct.utwente.nl > >is a mirror of context, and though we had a fire and our NOC totaly burnt >down, it is operational again. Hans could you change my entry on the >mirroring page. done. thanks! Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma(a)wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf -------------------------------------------------------------------------

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CT mirror university operational
by Gilbert van den Dobbelsteen 02 Dec '02

02 Dec '02

For thos of you who didn't know: http://context.ct.utwente.nl is a mirror of context, and though we had a fire and our NOC totaly burnt down, it is operational again. Hans could you change my entry on the mirroring page. Greetings Gilbert.

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new beta
by Hans Hagen 02 Dec '02

02 Dec '02

Hi, I uploaded a new beta. Most changes / updates / new features will go unnoticed until documented (column sets, more float placements and control, more clever and efficient text backgrounds -also in tables, and floats); since i use these features in some styles, they finally will be documented -) Of course there are also some fixes. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma(a)wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf -------------------------------------------------------------------------

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