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Re: [NTG-context] Installing Cyrillic font
by Mojca Miklavec 27 Dec '06

27 Dec '06

On 12/27/06, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote: > > > I might have missed the point completely, but do you set the file > > encoding anywhere, such as \enableregime[cp1251] (= windows-1251) > > anywhere? I didn't try your examples, but unless you set this > > somewhere cyrilic glyphs unlikely to work properly. > > Thank you, Mojca. > > No, I didn't set the encoding and let me explain why. > > When I put \enableregime[cp1251] (I use that very encoding) at the top of my > script, the output represents transliterated text (all Cyrillic glyphs are > replaced with corresponding Latin letters). I didn't consider it strange > until you pointed that to me. Here the .log file of the 'transliterated' That's "normal". The problems is that you didn't specify the proper encoding of your font, so TeX doesn't know that your font is cyrillic. \font\myfirstfont=t2a-n021003l \myfirstfont is a plain TeX command, you have to use a ConTeXt command for that. This is a way to go then: \starttypescript [map] [timescyr] [t2a] \loadmapfile [\typescriptthree-urw-timescyr.map] \stoptypescript \starttypescript [serif] [timescyr] [name] \definefontsynonym [Serif] [...] \stoptypescript \starttypescript [serif] [timescyr] [t2a] \definefontsynonym [...] [\typescriptthree-progbot] [encoding=\typescriptthree] \stoptypescript \starttypescript [serif] [t2a] \definetypeface [...] [rm] [serif] [timescyr] [default] [encoding=\typescripttwo] \stoptypescript That's only a rought sketch. If you don't get any further using the existing documentation and wiki, and if nobody else is willing to help, I can try to complete the definitions if you ask again, but someone is willing to do that instead ... I won't object. (Although I suspect that there is a shorter way to tell to TeX which encoding is being used for a specific font.) Mojca

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Re: [NTG-context] Installing Cyrillic font
by Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky 27 Dec '06

27 Dec '06

> I might have missed the point completely, but do you set the file > encoding anywhere, such as \enableregime[cp1251] (= windows-1251) > anywhere? I didn't try your examples, but unless you set this > somewhere cyrilic glyphs unlikely to work properly. Thank you, Mojca. No, I didn't set the encoding and let me explain why. When I put \enableregime[cp1251] (I use that very encoding) at the top of my script, the output represents transliterated text (all Cyrillic glyphs are replaced with corresponding Latin letters). I didn't consider it strange until you pointed that to me. Here the .log file of the 'transliterated' document: ConTeXt ver: 2006.07.14 12:08 fmt: 2006.12.25 int: english mes: english language : language en is active <protectionstate 0> system : cont-new loaded (E:\MiKTeX\tex\context\base\cont-new.tex systems : beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.tex color : palette rollover is available ) system : cont-old loaded (E:\MiKTeX\tex\context\base\cont-old.tex loading : Context Old Macros ) system : cont-fil loaded (E:\MiKTeX\tex\context\base\cont-fil.tex loading : Context File Synonyms ) system : cont-sys.rme loaded (E:\MiKTeX\tex\context\user\cont-sys.rme (E:\MiKTeX\tex\context\base\type-exa.tex) (E:\MiKTeX\tex\context\base\type-syn.tex) (E:\MiKTeX\tex\context\base\type-enc.tex) (E:\MiKTeX\tex\context\base\type-siz.tex) (E:\MiKTeX\tex\context\base\type-map.tex) (E:\MiKTeX\tex\context\base\type-spe.tex) (E:\MiKTeX\tex\context\base\type-akb.tex)) bodyfont : 12pt rm is loaded language : patterns en->ec:ec->1->2:3 uk->ec:ec->2->2:3 de->texnansi:tex nansi->3->2:3 de->ec:ec->4->2:3 fr->texnansi:texnansi->5->2:3 fr->ec:ec->6->2:3 es->ec:ec->7->2:3 pt->texnansi:texnansi->8->2:3 pt->ec:ec->9->2:3 it->texnansi :texnansi->10->2:3 it->ec:ec->11->2:3 nl->texnansi:texnansi->12->2:3 nl->ec:ec- >13->2:3 cz->il2:il2->14->2:3 cz->ec:ec->15->2:3 sk->il2:il2->16->2:3 sk->ec:ec ->17->2:3 pl->pl0:pl0->18->2:3 pl->ec:ec->19->2:3 pl->qx:qx->20->2:3 loaded specials : tex,postscript,rokicki loaded system : test7timescyr.top loaded (D:\~~\test7timescyr.top specials : loading definition file tpd (E:\MiKTeX\tex\context\base\spec-tpd.tex specials : loading definition file fdf (E:\MiKTeX\tex\context\base\spec-fdf.tex) specials : fdf loaded ) specials : fdf,tpd loaded ) systems : system commands are disabled encoding : coding cp1251 is loaded (E:\MiKTeX\tex\context\base\regi-cp1251.tex) (D:\~~\test7timescyr.tuo) (D:\~~\test7timescyr.tuo) (D:\~~\test7timescyr.tuo) (D:\~~\test7timescyr.tuo) (D:\~~\test7timescyr.tuo) (D:\~~\test7timescyr.tuo) (D:\~~\test7timescyr.tuo) (D:\~~\test7timescyr.tuo) (D:\~~\test7timescyr.tuo) (D:\~~\test7timescyr.tuo) (E:\MiKTeX\tex\context\base\sort-def.tex) (E:\MiKTeX\tex\context\base\sort-lan.tex) (D:\~~\test7timescyr.tuo) (D:\~~\test7timescyr.tuo) systems : begin file test7timescyr at line 14 fonts : resetting map file list fonts : using map file: lm-texnansi fonts : using map file: original-base fonts : using map file: ec-public-lm fonts : using map file: ec-base fonts : using map file: 8r-base fonts : using map file: t5-base fonts : using map file: original-ams-base fonts : using map file: original-ams-euler fonts : using map file: original-public-lm fonts : using map file: t2a-urw-timescyr (E:\MiKTeX\tex\context\base\pdfr-ec.tex) [1.1{original-empty.map}{lm-texnansi.m ap}{original-base.map}{ec-public-lm.map}{ec-base.map}{8r-base.map}{t5-base.map} {original-ams-base.map}{original-ams-euler.map}{original-public-lm.map}{t2a-urw -timescyr.map}] systems : end file test7timescyr at line 26 system : cont-err loaded (E:\MiKTeX\tex\context\base\cont-err.tex > User file 'cont-sys.tex' not found, 'cont-sys.rme' has been used instead. < ) ) Here is how much of TeX's memory you used: 1337 strings out of 57725 21657 string characters out of 577460 590834 words of memory out of 1079821 40050 multiletter control sequences out of 60000 76275 words of font info for 39 fonts, out of 1000000 for 2000 192 hyphenation exceptions out of 8191 51i,18n,51p,264b,540s stack positions out of 5000i,500n,10000p,200000b,32768s PDF statistics: 11 PDF objects out of 300000 0 named destinations out of 300000 5 words of extra memory for PDF output out of 10000 {t2a.enc}<E:/texmf/fonts/type1/urw/timescyr/n021003l.pfb>{lm-ec.enc}<E:/MiKT eX/fonts/type1/public/lm/lmr12.pfb> Output written on test7timescyr.pdf (1 page, 32893 bytes). -- Best regards, Vyatcheslav

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Fwd: Re[2]: Installing Cyrillic font
by Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky 27 Dec '06

27 Dec '06

> I might have missed the point completely, but do you set the file > encoding anywhere, such as \enableregime[cp1251] (= windows-1251) > anywhere? I didn't try your examples, but unless you set this > somewhere cyrilic glyphs unlikely to work properly. Thank you, Mojca. No, I didn't set the encoding and let me explain why. When I put \enableregime[cp1251] (I use that very encoding) at the top of my script, the output represents transliterated text (all Cyrillic glyphs are replaced with corresponding Latin letters). I didn't consider it strange until you pointed that to me. Here the .log file of the 'transliterated' document: ConTeXt ver: 2006.07.14 12:08 fmt: 2006.12.25 int: english mes: english language : language en is active <protectionstate 0> system : cont-new loaded (E:\MiKTeX\tex\context\base\cont-new.tex systems : beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.tex color : palette rollover is available ) system : cont-old loaded (E:\MiKTeX\tex\context\base\cont-old.tex loading : Context Old Macros ) system : cont-fil loaded (E:\MiKTeX\tex\context\base\cont-fil.tex loading : Context File Synonyms ) system : cont-sys.rme loaded (E:\MiKTeX\tex\context\user\cont-sys.rme (E:\MiKTeX\tex\context\base\type-exa.tex) (E:\MiKTeX\tex\context\base\type-syn.tex) (E:\MiKTeX\tex\context\base\type-enc.tex) (E:\MiKTeX\tex\context\base\type-siz.tex) (E:\MiKTeX\tex\context\base\type-map.tex) (E:\MiKTeX\tex\context\base\type-spe.tex) (E:\MiKTeX\tex\context\base\type-akb.tex)) bodyfont : 12pt rm is loaded language : patterns en->ec:ec->1->2:3 uk->ec:ec->2->2:3 de->texnansi:tex nansi->3->2:3 de->ec:ec->4->2:3 fr->texnansi:texnansi->5->2:3 fr->ec:ec->6->2:3 es->ec:ec->7->2:3 pt->texnansi:texnansi->8->2:3 pt->ec:ec->9->2:3 it->texnansi :texnansi->10->2:3 it->ec:ec->11->2:3 nl->texnansi:texnansi->12->2:3 nl->ec:ec- >13->2:3 cz->il2:il2->14->2:3 cz->ec:ec->15->2:3 sk->il2:il2->16->2:3 sk->ec:ec ->17->2:3 pl->pl0:pl0->18->2:3 pl->ec:ec->19->2:3 pl->qx:qx->20->2:3 loaded specials : tex,postscript,rokicki loaded system : test7timescyr.top loaded (D:\~~\test7timescyr.top specials : loading definition file tpd (E:\MiKTeX\tex\context\base\spec-tpd.tex specials : loading definition file fdf (E:\MiKTeX\tex\context\base\spec-fdf.tex) specials : fdf loaded ) specials : fdf,tpd loaded ) systems : system commands are disabled encoding : coding cp1251 is loaded (E:\MiKTeX\tex\context\base\regi-cp1251.tex) (D:\~~\test7timescyr.tuo) (D:\~~\test7timescyr.tuo) (D:\~~\test7timescyr.tuo) (D:\~~\test7timescyr.tuo) (D:\~~\test7timescyr.tuo) (D:\~~\test7timescyr.tuo) (D:\~~\test7timescyr.tuo) (D:\~~\test7timescyr.tuo) (D:\~~\test7timescyr.tuo) (D:\~~\test7timescyr.tuo) (E:\MiKTeX\tex\context\base\sort-def.tex) (E:\MiKTeX\tex\context\base\sort-lan.tex) (D:\~~\test7timescyr.tuo) (D:\~~\test7timescyr.tuo) systems : begin file test7timescyr at line 14 fonts : resetting map file list fonts : using map file: lm-texnansi fonts : using map file: original-base fonts : using map file: ec-public-lm fonts : using map file: ec-base fonts : using map file: 8r-base fonts : using map file: t5-base fonts : using map file: original-ams-base fonts : using map file: original-ams-euler fonts : using map file: original-public-lm fonts : using map file: t2a-urw-timescyr (E:\MiKTeX\tex\context\base\pdfr-ec.tex) [1.1{original-empty.map}{lm-texnansi.m ap}{original-base.map}{ec-public-lm.map}{ec-base.map}{8r-base.map}{t5-base.map} {original-ams-base.map}{original-ams-euler.map}{original-public-lm.map}{t2a-urw -timescyr.map}] systems : end file test7timescyr at line 26 system : cont-err loaded (E:\MiKTeX\tex\context\base\cont-err.tex > User file 'cont-sys.tex' not found, 'cont-sys.rme' has been used instead. < ) ) Here is how much of TeX's memory you used: 1337 strings out of 57725 21657 string characters out of 577460 590834 words of memory out of 1079821 40050 multiletter control sequences out of 60000 76275 words of font info for 39 fonts, out of 1000000 for 2000 192 hyphenation exceptions out of 8191 51i,18n,51p,264b,540s stack positions out of 5000i,500n,10000p,200000b,32768s PDF statistics: 11 PDF objects out of 300000 0 named destinations out of 300000 5 words of extra memory for PDF output out of 10000 {t2a.enc}<E:/texmf/fonts/type1/urw/timescyr/n021003l.pfb>{lm-ec.enc}<E:/MiKT eX/fonts/type1/public/lm/lmr12.pfb> Output written on test7timescyr.pdf (1 page, 32893 bytes). -- Best regards, Vyatcheslav

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Re: [NTG-context] Installing Cyrillic font
by Taco Hoekwater 27 Dec '06

27 Dec '06

Hi Vyatcheslav, (I intercepted your message because it was a bit too big for the list) From Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky <yatskovsky(a)gmail.com>: > > This is the INF file for my Times-Roman: > > FontName (Times-Roman) > FullName (Times Roman) > AppleName (Times) > AppleFONDID 20 > FamilyName (Times) > version (001.007) > isFixedPitch false > CharacterSet (isoadobe) > Encoding (StandardEncoding) > ItalicAngle 0 > CapHeight 662 > UnderlinePosition -100 > UnderlineThickness 50 > StemWidth 84 > Serif true > Pi false > SuperiorBaseline 270 > MSMenuName (Times) > VPMenuName (Times Roman) > WORDMenuName (Times) > VPTypefaceID 14 > VPStyle (N) > PCFileNamePrefix (TIR__) > PCLTypefaceID 20485 > PCLStrokeWeight 0 > PCLStyle 0 I am sorry to say that this really looks like the INF of the standard Times-Roman font that does not have cyrillic glyphs (and the same was true of your log file). Can you explain to the people on the list how you could successfully use cyrillic, what operating system you are using, and in which previewer exactly? I myself am lost as to what is going wrong exactly, but I find it hard to believe that the previewer is using tir_____.pfb, from the information you have provided so far. Best, Taco

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new debian context, upload to Debian
by Norbert Preining 26 Dec '06

26 Dec '06

Hi all! context 2006.12.17-0.1 is available from the usual place: deb(-src) http://www.tug.org/texlive/Debian/ context/ I want to upload this package to Debian proper soon. Please give suggestions/remarks/comments! Thanks a lot Best wishes Norbert ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Norbert Preining <preining(a)logic.at> Università di Siena Debian Developer <preining(a)debian.org> Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BURLESTON That peculiarly tuneless humming and whistling adopted by people who are extremely angry. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff

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ConTeXt on Debian: The wiki entry
by Frank Küster 25 Dec '06

25 Dec '06

Hi everybody, this mail has a double purpose. At the end, there's a call for testers of a new (planned) Debian ConTeXt package that would be updated more frequently than now (at least in unstable and testing), where ConTeXt is tied to teTeX's or TeXlive's release cycles. But first, I'd like to talk about http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Debian_installation Are some of the people around who wrote this? I found some information in it misleading and in part just wrong (this has already been pointed out two weaks ago by "plink"), and have started to edit the page to change the parts that give us, the Debian TeX maintaines, most headache. But in the lower part, "Steps to finish a first context upgrade", I felt lost. If these steps are really needed, then there's something seriously wrong in Debian's (and probably upstream's) packaging of ConTeXt. Therefore I didn't just change the text to reflect how I think it should work. Instead, we should try to figure out together whether it in fact does not work as it should, and then fix the Debian packages (hopefully still possible for etch). So the specific question I have are: - Is it intended that context formats end up in $TEXMF/web2c/pdfetex/? If yes, why is that so? If not, we should rather find out why it happens and fix it. - Why does it make a difference if the formats are created by fmtutil instead of texexec (Except for the output directory)? Should the upstream packaging be changed so that fmtutil is never used, but texexec, or should fmtutil be fixed to produce the same as texexec? Finally, here comes Norbert Preining's Call for Testers: Dear all! We = Debian TeX maintainers searching for users of the Debian Operating Systems which are also using ConTeXt. Currently Debian etch (testing) and sid (unstable) contains packages for TeX live 2005. But this contains a bit old ConTeXt version, so users are asking us to update ConTeXt. We have prepared a updated ConTeXt package for Debian, based on the latest released version (2006.08.08), and would ask you to help use testing, as we are not experienced in ConTeXt type settings. I checked some simple documents from the ConTeXt Garden, and they worked, but more detailed testing would be nice. If you have interest, please contact us at debian-tex-maint(a)lists.debian.org or, if you have a bit experience, you can straight away add deb http://www.tug.org/texlive/Debian/ context/ to your /etc/apt/sources.list file and install context. After this, please tell us our experiences/failures/suggestions. Thanks a lot and all the best Regards, Frank -- Dr. Frank Küster Single Molecule Spectroscopy, Protein Folding @ Inst. f. Biochemie, Univ. Zürich Debian Developer (teTeX/TeXLive)

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Spacing after defined word: beginner's question
by cormullion＠mac.com 25 Dec '06

25 Dec '06

This must be a beginner's question, but I can't find the answer to it in the manuals... Take this ConTeXt source: -- \def\Acme{% {\ss\sc ACME}} Welcome from \Acme. \Acme make fine products. -- When this is made into a PDF, it looks like this: -- Welcome from ACME. ACMEmake fine products. -- - because I didn't have a space in the definition, I don't get a space in the second sentence, but the period didn't interfere with the execution of the first occurrence. But if I put a space in the definition after the 'E', I get this: -- Welcome from ACME . ACME make fine products. -- - and there's a space after the first 'E', which I don't want, even though there is now a space after the second... What am I doing wrong?

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Installing Cyrillic font
by Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky 25 Dec '06

25 Dec '06

Hello I'm looking for help with installing the Adobe Times font with Cyrillic support. I have TIR_____.PFB and all other companion files. It surely contains Cyrillic glyphs because I can type Russian using a font viewer. I run the texfont utility as follows texfont -fontroot=e:/texmf --sourcepath=. --vendor=adobe --encoding=t2a --collection=timescyr --makepath --install and it performs good. But created t2a-adobe-timescyr.pdf test file shows no Cyrillic glyphs (it seems like there are vacant empty spaces from 192 to 255). Also I cannot make use of Russian in my context scripts. (Latin goes well) I'm ready to send any additional relevant info. Best regards, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky

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Re: [NTG-context] \hairline in the header and column rule
by Jeong Dalyoung 22 Dec '06

22 Dec '06

Dear Aditya Thank you for your tip. After adding the line "\setupbackgrounds[header][text] [bottomframe=on,topframe=on]", I got lines of whole length. However, [rule=on] option only draw vertical line as long as the paragraph not to the bottom. Please test once more using a short paragraph(3-4 lines) instead of \knuth. Thank you again. Regards, Dalyoung

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mails
by Hans Hagen 22 Dec '06

22 Dec '06

sorry for being a bit slow on answering mail .. the usual end of year deadlines and such delay me Hans -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

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