btw, in mkiv you show chars with \usemodule[fnt-25] ... \startbuffer[mathtest] \begingroup\mm\mr\showmathfontcharacters\endgroup \stopbuffer \starttext \usetypescript[cambria] \setupbodyfont[cambria, 12pt] \getbuffer[mathtest] \usetypescript[lmvirtual] \setupbodyfont[lmvirtual,12pt] \getbuffer[mathtest] \usetypescript[pxvirtual] \setupbodyfont[pxvirtual,12pt] \getbuffer[mathtest] \usetypescript[txvirtual] \setupbodyfont[txvirtual,12pt] \getbuffer[mathtest] \usetypescript[palatino] \setupbodyfont[palatino, 10pt] \getbuffer[mathtest] \usetypescript[mathtimes] \setupbodyfont[mathtimes,12pt] \getbuffer[mathtest] \stoptext more fun ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------