At 09:04 AM 12/2/2002 -0500, you wrote: My point is that, in my experience, long set off quotations (block quotes) do not have quotation marks. They are, however, still "quotes." so, then you would need something \definedelimitedtext[longquote][blockquote] \setupdelimitedtext[longquote][left=,right=] and use \startlongquote ..... \stoplongquote so: longquote would inherit from blockquote except the symbols Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf -------------------------------------------------------------------------