Feature request: setuppapersize
Hans, Since we have some leverage with backward compatibility in MkIV, can we make \setuppapersize (slightly) more intuitive. Normally, one would expect \setuppapersize[A5] to be equivalent to \setuppapersize[A5][A5] but currently it is equivalent to \setuppapersize[A5][A4] This is a bit confusing, and means that we always have to specify the printpaper size; even if it is equal to paper size. Can we modify the definition of \dodefinepapersize to change this behavior? \def\dodefinepapersize[#1][#2][#3]% {\ifsecondargument \doifsomething{#1} % to be sure {\doifassignmentelse{#2} {\getparameters [\??pp#1] % geen \c!scale, scheelt hash ruimte [\c!width=\@@ppwidth,\c!height=\@@ppheight,\c!offset=\@@ppoffset,#2]% %AM: Added these two lines \setvalue{\??pp:1:#1}{#1}% \setvalue{\??pp:2:#1}{#1}}% {\setvalue{\??pp:1:#1}{#2}% \setvalue{\??pp:2:#1}{#3}}}% (*) see below \else \getparameters[\??pp][#1]% \setuppapersize % hm. this will freeze ! \fi} Perhaps, in line (*), we should also check if #3 is something, otherwise set ??p:2:#1 to #2: \doifsomethingelse{#3} {\setvalue\??pp:2:#1}{#3}} {\setvalue\??pp:2:#1}{#2}} What do you think? Aditya
On 9-1-2011 12:45, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
more elegant and downward compatible is this: \definepapersize [samesized] [ \c!width=\paperwidth, \c!height=\paperheight] \setuppapersize [A4][samesized] in page-lay.mkiv ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
Hans Hagen
Not really an improvement over \setuppapersize[A4][A4] ... -- Peter Münster Contact information: http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/
On 10-1-2011 3:04, Peter Münster wrote:
why not? ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
Hans Hagen
Just my personal opinion: more keystrokes to type and more options to remember. I prefer Aditya's original idea. -- Peter Münster Contact information: http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/
On 10-1-2011 4:20, Peter Münster wrote:
i guess you didn't try it as suggested ... when set up this way the second argument defaults to samesize unless set otherwise Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
Hans Hagen
Right! I thought the \setuppapersize[][samesized] was for the user-document... But in page-lay.mkiv it makes much more sense! Excuse me, Peter -- Peter Münster Contact information: http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/
On Mon, 10 Jan 2011, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
I don't know if something changed, but this has stoopped working. \setuppapersize[A5] \starttext \dorecurse{10}{\input knuth \endgraf} \stoptext With MkII I get $pdfinfo page-test.pdf Title: page-test Subject: Keywords: Author: Creator: ConTeXt - 2011.02.25 22:03 Producer: pdfTeX-1.40.11 CreationDate: Sat Mar 19 13:50:49 2011 ModDate: ConTeXt - 2011.02.25 22:03 Tagged: no Pages: 5 Encrypted: no Page size: 595.276 x 841.89 pts (A4) File size: 33436 bytes Optimized: no PDF version: 1.5 With MkIV: $pdfinfo page-test.pdf Title: page-test Creator: ConTeXt - 2011.02.25 22:03 Producer: LuaTeX-0.65.0 CreationDate: Sat Mar 19 13:53:29 2011 ModDate: Sat Mar 19 13:53:29 2011 Tagged: no Pages: 5 Encrypted: no Page size: 595.276 x 841.89 pts (A4) File size: 16057 bytes Optimized: no PDF version: 1.6 Notice that the page size is still A4! Any idea why this is happening? (I get the right paper size with letter, A0, A1, A2, A3, but wrong paper sizes with anything smaller than A4). Aditya
Did you try \setuppapersize[A5][A5] ? According to http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Reference/en/setuppapersize second argument (the print paper size) is A4 by default.
On Sun, 20 Mar 2011, C. wrote:
About two months back I had requested that the second argument be made optional. Hans had implemented that request, but it does not always work (I don't know if this is a regression over the original implemenetation, or it never worked correctly). Aditya
... and that's what happens if I don't read the whole thread :D sorry. @Kavian: the attached PDF is A4 (does your PDF-reader not show the paper dimensions in some kind of proprieties dialog?! Adobe Reader sure does) As for the issue: same behavior here. I, too, find it confusing when I dont get the desired size by using only one argument. +1 for change.
Am 21.03.2011 um 00:43 schrieb Aditya Mahajan:
About two months back I had requested that the second argument be made optional. Hans had implemented that request, but it does not always work (I don't know if this is a regression over the original implemenetation, or it never worked correctly).
I doubt if it has ever worked because after i looked at the source for the defintion of \setuppapersize i see that Hans (i mean samesized) code can’t work. Wolfgang
On 21-3-2011 5:08, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
well, it works if one specifies [A5][samesize] but it looks like folks want even more automatism ... so i changed it a bit in the next beta .. i also made middle the default location Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
On Tue, 22 Mar 2011, Hans Hagen wrote:
Yes, but [A5][A5] is simpler than [A5][samesize] :)
but it looks like folks want even more automatism ...
and easier explanation. The trouble with [A5][A5] is that you need to explain the difference between papersize and printpapersize before you can explain how to change the papersize. Most users don't care about this difference, so the additional syntax gets confusing.
so i changed it a bit in the next beta .. i also made middle the default location
Thank you. I will document all this in the next TUGBoat article on "Context for users". Aditya
Hi Aditya, Testing your minimal example: \setuppapersize[A5] \showframe \starttext \dorecurse{10}{\input knuth \endgraf} \stoptext it seems that I do get an A5 papersize (ConTeXt version 2011.02.25 22:03, and LuaTeX, Version beta-0.65.0-2010121316). I attach the PDF file for your information (since I don't know how to get pdfinfo…). Best regards: OK On 19 mars 2011, at 18:59, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
On 22-1-2011 5:34, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
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participants (7)
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Aditya Mahajan
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C.
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Cecil Westerhof
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Hans Hagen
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Otared Kavian
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pmlists@free.fr
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Wolfgang Schuster