Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context writes:

Am 11.10.22 um 20:00 schrieb Leah Neukirchen via ntg-context:

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Hello, I noticed the following problem: \showframe \startluacode fonts.protrusions.vectors.pure[0x201C] = { 1, 1 } \stopluacode \definefontfeature[default][default][protrusion=pure] \setupalign[hanging] \starttext This text is unquoted. “This text is quoted manually.” \quotation{This text is quoted by a macro.} This is a very long line followed by a nice linebreak, very supercalifragilisticexpialidocious. This is a very long line followed by an ugly linebreak, not \quotation{supercalifragilisticexpialidocious} \stoptext The macro-quoted text is not protruded. I fixed this locally with a macro \def\q#1{\protrusionboundary1\quotation{#1}} Should this be default? But the missing hyphenation I have to add myself with \-. Ideas?

Try \setupdelimitedtext[quotation][method=font]

That fixes both issues, thanks! Not sure where I should have learned this exists, however. ;) -- Leah Neukirchen https://leahneukirchen.org/

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: ntg-context Im Auftrag von Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. Oktober 2022 10:15 An: ntg-context@ntg.nl Cc: Henning Hraban Ramm Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] \quotation, protrusion and linebreaking

Am 11.10.22 um 21:06 schrieb Leah Neukirchen:

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Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context writes:

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\setupdelimitedtext[quotation][method=font]

Just a quick request for clarification: What does that actually do? Best, Denis

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: ntg-context Im Auftrag von Hans Hagen via ntg-context Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. Oktober 2022 21:12 An: Denis Maier via ntg-context Cc: Hans Hagen Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] \quotation, protrusion and linebreaking

On 10/12/2022 8:49 PM, Denis Maier via ntg-context wrote:

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-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: ntg-context Im Auftrag von Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. Oktober 2022 10:15 An: ntg-context@ntg.nl Cc: Henning Hraban Ramm Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] \quotation, protrusion and linebreaking

Am 11.10.22 um 21:06 schrieb Leah Neukirchen:

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Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context writes:

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\setupdelimitedtext[quotation][method=font]

Just a quick request for clarification: What does that actually do? uses glyph in font instead (most opentype have them)

Instead of what?

On 12/10/22 12/10/22, 14:25, Wolfgang Schuster via ntg-context wrote:

Denis Maier via ntg-context schrieb am 12.10.2022 um 21:17:

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Instead of what?

By default the symbols are placed with a box because you aren't limited to normal quotation marks.

\setupexternalfigure [location=default]

\setupdelimitedtext   [quotation]   [ left={\externalfigure[cow][height=\strutht]},    right={\externalfigure[cow][height=\strutht]}]

I *like* cow delimiters (but shouldn't the right one be reflected?) ;-) Alan

On 2022-10-11 15:06, Leah Neukirchen via ntg-context wrote:

Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context writes:

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Am 11.10.22 um 20:00 schrieb Leah Neukirchen via ntg-context:

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Hello, I noticed the following problem: \showframe \startluacode fonts.protrusions.vectors.pure[0x201C] = { 1, 1 } \stopluacode \definefontfeature[default][default][protrusion=pure] \setupalign[hanging] \starttext This text is unquoted. “This text is quoted manually.” \quotation{This text is quoted by a macro.} This is a very long line followed by a nice linebreak, very supercalifragilisticexpialidocious. This is a very long line followed by an ugly linebreak, not \quotation{supercalifragilisticexpialidocious} \stoptext The macro-quoted text is not protruded. I fixed this locally with a macro \def\q#1{\protrusionboundary1\quotation{#1}} Should this be default? But the missing hyphenation I have to add myself with \-. Ideas? Try \setupdelimitedtext[quotation][method=font] That fixes both issues, thanks!

Not sure where I should have learned this exists, however. ;)

Note that this does not fix the problem when the quotation begins a footnote. See the thread "Hanging punctuation misalignment in footnotes" (https://mailman.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2014/077122.html or https://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context@ntg.nl/msg73516.html, pick your favorite archiver), where the problem is described. An test example follows: \setuplayout       [width=9cm,                     height=12cm] \definefontfeature [default]                    [default]                    [protrusion=quality] \setupalign        [hanging] \setupquotation    [method=font] \setupnote         [endnote]                    [location=none] \setupnotation     [footnote]                    [numberconversion=set 2] \setupnotation     [footnote]                    [align=hanging] \setupwhitespace   [medium] \setupbodyfont     [libertinus] \showframe \starttext \quotation{{\em Cantharides}} is the reported message from Sir Francis Drake upon defeating the Spanish Armada.\endnote{\quotation{{\em Vovi}} is reportedly the message from James Broun|-|Ramsay on taking Oudh. Both are as likely as the attribution of \quotation{{\em peccavi}} to Napier after his defeat of the Ameer of Scinde.}\footnote{“{\em Vovi}” is reportedly the message from James Broun|-|Ramsay on taking Oudh. Both are as likely as the attribution of \quotation{{\em peccavi}} to Napier after his defeat of the Ameer of Scinde.} {\tfx This problem appears intractable. See \quotation{Re: [NTG-context] Hanging punctuation misalignment in footnotes} on the mailing list, where Wolfgang explains that the problem is struts.} \placenotes[endnote] \stoptext A solution is welcomed. -- Rik