Hi! A couple of questions regarding BibTeX and ConTeXt. :-) 1) For various reasons I want to make my own .bbl file. Do I understand correctly that I therefore don't need to use \setupbibtex in my document? I wouldn't see the point in linking to my original .bib file if I don't want the system to generate the .bbl in the first place. However, is this the command which generates the .aux file? What purpose does this one have? 2) In an automatically generated .bbl file, the \setuppublicationlist command seems to have as a value for the samplesize parameter the very first s-key of the list, .i.e that of the first publication in the database. These labels are clearly generated from the first three characters of the first Author data, and the last two character of the Year data. For example, in my database, the author being Achinstein and the year being 1975 for the first entry, the generated s-key is Ach75. This is the value \setuppublicationlist[samplesize] as well. What is the purpose of 'samplesize' exactly? And what is the use of the s-key in the first place? Is it mandatory? The answer to this is unclear to me. Hic et nunc, I wouldn't even know where to use them; not in the way I cite references in my document. I would use a and y exclusively. 3) All the a-keys with author lastnames in my generated bbl file contain the names in brackets {}, excluding the normal delimiting brackets of the key itself. For example, for my first publication, you read a={{Achinstein}}. With more than one authors, I have for example a={{Bromberger},{Halle}}. However, in Taco's documentation (bibmod-doc), there are no such brackets in the sample entry: a=Hoekwater. Are the brackets absolutely necessary? With more than one name, perhaps? Many thanks in advance for your answers! As always I'm ever grateful for the great help this list provides. Jeff Smith
Jeff Smith wrote:
Hi!
A couple of questions regarding BibTeX and ConTeXt. :-)
1) For various reasons I want to make my own .bbl file. Do I understand correctly that I therefore don't need to use \setupbibtex in my document?
Correct. Don't use \setupbibtex in that case, because it will trigger bibtex runs and those will likely destroy your handcrafted bbl.
2) In an automatically generated .bbl file, the \setuppublicationlist command seems to have as a value for the samplesize parameter the very first s-key of the list, .i.e that of the first publication in the database.
In some styles, the "s" (=short) key is used for both referencing and labelling in the list of publications. The "samplesize" decides how much space on the left should be reserved for the labels in that style. It will make the publication list look like this: [Ach75] Random musings about greenery. Achinaeus Julius, Emperial Elite press, Rome, 75 BCE. [...] Etc. etc. And cites will be like As can be read in [Ach75], ...
3) Are the brackets absolutely necessary? With more than one name, perhaps?
Whenever there are embedded commas or square brackets in the keys, just like in the rest of context. Bibtex is paranoid and inserts many extra braces, just in case. Best wishes, Taco
Thank you very much Taco, for these answers!
Jeff
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 5:19 AM, Taco Hoekwater
Jeff Smith wrote:
Hi!
A couple of questions regarding BibTeX and ConTeXt. :-)
1) For various reasons I want to make my own .bbl file. Do I understand correctly that I therefore don't need to use \setupbibtex in my document?
Correct. Don't use \setupbibtex in that case, because it will trigger bibtex runs and those will likely destroy your handcrafted bbl.
2) In an automatically generated .bbl file, the \setuppublicationlist command seems to have as a value for the samplesize parameter the very first s-key of the list, .i.e that of the first publication in the database.
In some styles, the "s" (=short) key is used for both referencing and labelling in the list of publications. The "samplesize" decides how much space on the left should be reserved for the labels in that style. It will make the publication list look like this:
[Ach75] Random musings about greenery. Achinaeus Julius, Emperial Elite press, Rome, 75 BCE. [...] Etc. etc.
And cites will be like
As can be read in [Ach75], ...
3) Are the brackets absolutely necessary? With more than one name, perhaps?
Whenever there are embedded commas or square brackets in the keys, just like in the rest of context. Bibtex is paranoid and inserts many extra braces, just in case.
Best wishes, Taco
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