Missing greeks characters in texgyreheros

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luigi scarso

30 Apr 2008 30 Apr '08

11:37 a.m.

See also Missing character in texgyreheros \startluacode function greek_sub(line) line = line:gsub('ά','\\buildtextaccent\\textacute\\greekalpha{}') line = line:gsub('έ','\\buildtextaccent\\textacute\\greekepsilon{}') line = line:gsub('ή','\\buildtextaccent\\textacute\\greeketa{}') line = line:gsub('ί','\\buildtextaccent\\textacute\\greekiota{}') line = line:gsub('ό','\\buildtextaccent\\textacute\\greekomicron{}') line = line:gsub('ύ','\\buildtextaccent\\textacute\\greekupsilon{}') line = line:gsub('ώ','\\buildtextaccent\\textacute\\greekomega{}') line = line:gsub('Ό',"'\\greekOmicron{}") line = line:gsub("Ά","'\\greekAlpha{}") line = line:gsub("Έ","'\\greekEpsilon{}") line = line:gsub("Ή","'\\greekEta{}") line = line:gsub("Ί","'\\greekIota{}") line = line:gsub("ϊ","\\buildtextaccent\\textdiaeresis\\greekiota{}") line = line:gsub("Ύ","'\\greekUpsilon{}") line = line:gsub("Ώ","'\\greekOmega{}") return line end \stopluacode \def\startfiltered{\ctxlua {callback.register('process_input_buffer', greek_sub)}} Of course, incomplete. 2008/4/29 Taco Hoekwater :

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This should also work (but untested)

\catcode`\ώ=\active \def ώ{\buildtextaccent\textacute\greekomega} I will give it a try

I'm not searching for the perfect way, just a way to print a greek pdf Suggestions welcome. -- luigi it's new . it's powerful . it's luatex . http://www.luatex.org

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Thomas A. Schmitz

30 Apr 30 Apr

11:51 a.m.

On Apr 30, 2008, at 11:37 AM, luigi scarso wrote:

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I'm not searching for the perfect way, just a way to print a greek pdf Suggestions welcome.

Well, the easiest solution is: use a font that does have a full set of Greek characters. The TeXGyre fonts have some Greek characters, but they are not really finished and are not usable right now. You're trying to fake characters which are not in the font; this is unsatisfying from an esthetical point of view and hackish as for the produced pdf (not cut-and-paste, no search etc.). For better results, try a font such as Gentium, Minion, or even Times New Roman. If it's important for you: for several months now, I have been using a version of my Greek module which works perfectly with mkiv; so far, I haven't seen the necesity to upload it, but I could do it any time (after some clean-up). Best Thomas

luigi scarso

12:06 p.m.

On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 11:51 AM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:

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On Apr 30, 2008, at 11:37 AM, luigi scarso wrote:

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I'm not searching for the perfect way, just a way to print a greek pdf Suggestions welcome.

Well, the easiest solution is: use a font that does have a full set of Greek characters. The TeXGyre fonts have some Greek characters, but they are not really finished and are not usable right now.

I need an opentype like helvetica , plus some times and courier; ie \usetypescript[postscript] is ok.

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You're trying to fake characters which are not in the font; this is unsatisfying from an esthetical point of view and hackish as for the produced pdf (not cut-and-paste, no search etc.). yes I know, but actually i need only print, and it's low/mid quality. Very raw, I agree.

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If it's important for you: for several months now, I have been using a version of my Greek module which works perfectly with mkiv; so far, I haven't seen the necesity to upload it, but I could do it any time (after some clean-up). yes, of course.

-- luigi it's new . it's powerful . it's luatex . http://www.luatex.org

Wolfgang Schuster

12:13 p.m.

On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 12:06 PM, luigi scarso wrote:

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On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 11:51 AM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:

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On Apr 30, 2008, at 11:37 AM, luigi scarso wrote:

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I'm not searching for the perfect way, just a way to print a greek pdf Suggestions welcome.

Well, the easiest solution is: use a font that does have a full set of Greek characters. The TeXGyre fonts have some Greek characters, but they are not really finished and are not usable right now.

I need an opentype like helvetica , plus some times and courier; ie \usetypescript[postscript] is ok.

You could use Microsofts new Vista fonts (Cambria, Corbel, Consolas ...)

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You're trying to fake characters which are not in the font; this is unsatisfying from an esthetical point of view and hackish as for the produced pdf (not cut-and-paste, no search etc.). yes I know, but actually i need only print, and it's low/mid quality. Very raw, I agree.

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If it's important for you: for several months now, I have been using a version of my Greek module which works perfectly with mkiv; so far, I haven't seen the necesity to upload it, but I could do it any time (after some clean-up). yes, of course.

Wolfgang

luigi scarso

12:25 p.m.

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ie \usetypescript[postscript] is ok.

You could use Microsofts new Vista fonts (Cambria, Corbel, Consolas ...) Can we share a link , or licences problems may arise ?

-- luigi it's new . it's powerful . it's luatex . http://www.luatex.org

Wolfgang Schuster

12:52 p.m.

On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 12:25 PM, luigi scarso wrote:

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ie \usetypescript[postscript] is ok.

You could use Microsofts new Vista fonts (Cambria, Corbel, Consolas ...) Can we share a link , or licences problems may arise ?

Google for "PowerPoint Viewer 2007". Wolfgang

Henning Hraban Ramm

2:49 p.m.

Am 2008-04-30 um 12:52 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:

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You could use Microsofts new Vista fonts (Cambria, Corbel, Consolas ...) Can we share a link , or licences problems may arise ? Google for "PowerPoint Viewer 2007".

Quoting Microsoft's download page: """ Font Components You may use the fonts that accompany the PowerPoint Viewer only to display and print content from a device running a Microsoft Windows operating system. Additionally, you may do the following: Embed fonts in content as permitted by the embedding restrictions in the fonts When printing content, temporarily download the fonts to a printer or other output device You may not copy, install or use the fonts on other devices. """ Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer)

Thomas A. Schmitz

12:32 p.m.

On Apr 30, 2008, at 12:06 PM, luigi scarso wrote:

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I need an opentype like helvetica , plus some times and courier; ie \usetypescript[postscript] is ok.

I'm not sure I understand. Why opentype (truetype works as well in mkiv)? And what do you mean with "\usetypescript[postscript] is ok"? Here's a list of fonts with full Greek support (with some links) that are sure to work in mkiv: Gentium (this one looks good when you mix it with a sans as "Latin" bodyfont) all the GFS fonts http://www.greekfontsociety.gr/pages/en_typefaces1.html Minion (comes with Adobe Reader) Old Standard http://www.thessalonica.org.ru/en/fonts.html Recent versions of Times New Roman Asteria http://www.ellopos.net/elpenor/greek-texts/greek-fonts.asp If all you need is characters with the acute accent ("monotoniko"), you could also look at Adobe Myriad (comes with Adobe Reader) and numerous other fonts. HTH Thomas

luigi scarso

12:47 p.m.

On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:

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On Apr 30, 2008, at 12:06 PM, luigi scarso wrote:

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I need an opentype like helvetica , plus some times and courier; ie \usetypescript[postscript] is ok.

I'm not sure I understand. Why opentype (truetype works as well in mkiv)? And what do you mean with "\usetypescript[postscript] is ok"?

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Here's a list of fonts with full Greek support (with some links) that are sure to work in mkiv:

Gentium (this one looks good when you mix it with a sans as "Latin" bodyfont) all the GFS fonts http://www.greekfontsociety.gr/pages/en_typefaces1.html Minion (comes with Adobe Reader) Old Standard http://www.thessalonica.org.ru/en/fonts.html Recent versions of Times New Roman Asteria http://www.ellopos.net/elpenor/greek-texts/greek-fonts.asp

If all you need is characters with the acute accent ("monotoniko"), you could also look at Adobe Myriad (comes with Adobe Reader) and numerous other fonts.

sorry 1) in my luatex env. \usetypescript[postscript] is linked with tex gyre font collections 2) opentype because they are.... so easy to install ! Just download in opentype dir, rehash, and it's all ok. thank you very much!! (and waiting for you module...) ===== luigi it's new . it's powerful . it's luatex . http://www.luatex.org

Thomas A. Schmitz

2:29 p.m.

On Apr 30, 2008, at 12:47 PM, luigi scarso wrote:

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sorry 1) in my luatex env. \usetypescript[postscript] is linked with tex gyre font collections 2) opentype because they are.... so easy to install ! Just download in opentype dir, rehash, and it's all ok.

OK, but installing truetype is exactly the same.

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thank you very much!! (and waiting for you module...)

I have just uploaded a new version to the garden. It's not really finished, so documentation is missing and there are still a few leftovers in the code, but I hope everything is in working order. I'd appreciate feedback. This should work with mkii, mkiv and XeTeX, so just run a testfile with one of the included fonts: \enableregime[utf] \usemodule[ancientgreek][font=GFSElpis,scale=1] \starttext Some Greek text: \localgreek{Μῆνιν ἄειδε, θεά, Πηληϊάδεω Ἀχιλῆος} \stoptext Here, it gives correct output with all engines: texexec test.tex texexec --xtx test.tex texexec --lua test.tex Best Thomas

Wolfgang Schuster

2:34 p.m.

On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 2:29 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:

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On Apr 30, 2008, at 12:47 PM, luigi scarso wrote:

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sorry 1) in my luatex env. \usetypescript[postscript] is linked with tex gyre font collections 2) opentype because they are.... so easy to install ! Just download in opentype dir, rehash, and it's all ok.

OK, but installing truetype is exactly the same.

A TrueType could be also a OpenType font :-) http://www.typografie.info/typowiki/index.php?title=OpenType#Unterschied_Tru... Sorry, german only. Wolfgang

luigi scarso

7:22 p.m.

On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 2:29 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:

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On Apr 30, 2008, at 12:47 PM, luigi scarso wrote:

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sorry 1) in my luatex env. \usetypescript[postscript] is linked with tex gyre font collections 2) opentype because they are.... so easy to install ! Just download in opentype dir, rehash, and it's all ok.

OK, but installing truetype is exactly the same.

Ah yes, at my printing company 1) pfb/pfa : "good" fonts (& not "easy" to install in luatex ) 2) otf : "good" fonts (& "easy" to install ) 3) ttf : "bad" fonts (& "easy " to install ) Of course it's not exactly true (but maybe on average): a mental habitat, I must admit it, based on experience. Also, an helvetica like typeface is a must.

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I have just uploaded a new version to the garden. good. Greek is really difficult for me

-- luigi it's new . it's powerful . it's luatex . http://www.luatex.org

Henning Hraban Ramm

9:22 p.m.

Am 2008-04-30 um 19:22 schrieb luigi scarso:

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Ah yes, at my printing company 1) pfb/pfa : "good" fonts (& not "easy" to install in luatex ) 2) otf : "good" fonts (& "easy" to install ) 3) ttf : "bad" fonts (& "easy " to install )

Of course it's not exactly true (but maybe on average): a mental habitat, I must admit it, based on experience. Also, an helvetica like typeface is a must.

In the old times some PS Level2 RIPs couldn't handle Truetype fonts. And most bad fonts are Truetype. But in fact the format tells nothing about quality or printability. OpenType fonts can contain Truetype-based outlines as well as PostScript-based (quadratic vs. cubic curves). Usually .otf files contain PostScript-based outlines, while .ttf can mean "old" Truetype as well as TrueType-based OpenType. I.e. the TrueType format can encode its slots in Unicode (obligatory for OpenType) or in any other encoding.

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I have just uploaded a new version to the garden. good. Greek is really difficult for me Yes, it's Greek to everyone ;-)

Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer)

Thomas A. Schmitz

12:34 p.m.

On Apr 30, 2008, at 11:51 AM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:

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The TeXGyre fonts have some Greek characters, but they are not really finished and are not usable right now.

Just to clarify an ambiguous sentence: "they" refers to the Greek characters, not to the TeXGyre fonts in general. Thomas

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