On 2/24/2024 4:28 PM, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

Dear Roger,

On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 at 15:34, Roger Mason wrote:

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After unpacking, running the install scripts results in:

ld-elf.so.1: /home/rmason/Software/Context/bin/mtxrun: Undefined symbol "__libc_start1@FBSD_1.7"

I assume this is because mtxrun is compiled for FreeBSD 14.0.

There were some troubles with our infrastructure which led Hans to build the binaries himself without paying extra attention to compatibility with older systems.

Can freebsd 14 work with older bins? The previosu method of these hard coded version numbers was a pain as i have to adapt different scripts and the websit to newer versions so and i don't want that. (We could put more bins in the installer for a platform and then let the install.sh choose what bins to fetch but even then the question is how far do we go back in time.)

You can find the binaries here: https://build.contextgarden.net/dl/luametatex/

but I hope that Hans will rebuild the installer in order to make the older systems functional again.

Other than that, building luametatex is relatively straightforward with CMake. The sources can be found either inside ConTeXt or separately inside https://github.com/contextgarden/luametatex We could add a flag to the installer thaqt doesn't update the binaries but intead (advices) to build the bins but it assumes Cmake and gcc to be installed (we could cheat and use an existing cmake made make file).

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Am 25.02.24 um 13:12 schrieb Hans Hagen:

We could add a flag to the installer that doesn't update the binaries but intead (advices) to build the bins but it assumes Cmake and gcc to be installed (we could cheat and use an existing cmake made make file).

Yes please! A platform-independent download would be great. Hraban

Hi Alan, Alan Braslau via ntg-context writes:

On Sun, 25 Feb 2024 14:23:10 +0100 Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:

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Am 25.02.24 um 13:12 schrieb Hans Hagen:

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We could add a flag to the installer that doesn't update the binaries but intead (advices) to build the bins but it assumes Cmake and gcc to be installed (we could cheat and use an existing cmake made make file).

Yes please! A platform-independent download would be great.

However, we should not assume gcc: it could be clang.

FWIW clang is now the default on FreeBSD. Cheers, Roger

Hello, Roger Mason writes:

Hello Henning, Mojca,

Mojca Miklavec writes:

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There were some troubles with our infrastructure which led Hans to build the binaries himself without paying extra attention to compatibility with older systems.

You can find the binaries here: https://build.contextgarden.net/dl/luametatex/

but I hope that Hans will rebuild the installer in order to make the older systems functional again.

Other than that, building luametatex is relatively straightforward with CMake. The sources can be found either inside ConTeXt or separately inside https://github.com/contextgarden/luametatex

I see that the build does not provide the mtxrun binary that the installer uses. Does that mean I dont need mtxrun?

Do I need mtxrun? If so, where are the sources and how do I build it? Thanks, Roger

Hello Hraban, Henning Hraban Ramm writes:

Am 25.02.24 um 17:08 schrieb Roger Mason:

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Do I need mtxrun? If so, where are the sources and how do I build it?

Yes, you need it, but it’s just an alias to luametatex:

~/context/tex/texmf-osx-64/bin $ ll total 7704 -rw-r--r--@ 1 hraban staff 6,0K 14 Dez 19:11 .DS_Store lrwxr-xr-x 1 hraban staff 10B 22 Feb 18:47 context@ -> luametatex -rw-r--r-- 1 hraban staff 1,3K 10 Aug 2023 context.lua -rwxr-xr-x 1 hraban staff 2,9M 22 Feb 18:47 luametatex* lrwxr-xr-x 1 hraban staff 10B 22 Feb 18:47 mtxrun@ -> luametatex -rw-r--r-- 1 hraban staff 685K 22 Feb 18:47 mtxrun.lua

The mtxrun in ~/context/bin is only used during installation.

What else do I need in ~/context/tex? Currently I have . ├── texmf-context │   └── web2c │   └── contextcnf.lua └── texmf-freebsd-amd64 └── bin ├── context -> luametatex ├── context.lua ├── luametatex ├── mtxrun -> luametatex └── mtxrun.lua and mtxrun --generate says resolvers | resolving | variable 'SELFAUTOLOC' set to '/usr/home/rmason/context/tex/texmf-freebsd-amd64/bin' resolvers | resolving | variable 'SELFAUTODIR' set to '/usr/home/rmason/context/tex/texmf-freebsd-amd64' resolvers | resolving | variable 'SELFAUTOPARENT' set to '/usr/home/rmason/context/tex' resolvers | resolving | variable 'TEXMFCNF' set to '' resolvers | resolving | variable 'TEXMF' set to '' resolvers | resolving | variable 'TEXOS' set to 'texmf-freebsd-amd64' resolvers | resolving | resolvers | resolving | using configuration specification 'home:texmf/web2c;selfautoparent:/texmf-local/web2c;selfautoparent:/texmf-context/web2c;selfautoparent:/texmf/web2c' resolvers | resolving | resolvers | resolving | looking for regular 'texmfcnf.lua' on given path '/home/rmason/texmf/web2c' from specification 'home:texmf/web2c' resolvers | resolving | looking for regular 'texmfcnf.lua' on given path '/usr/home/rmason/context/tex/texmf-local/web2c' from specification 'selfautoparent:/texmf-local/web2c' resolvers | resolving | looking for regular 'texmfcnf.lua' on given path '/usr/home/rmason/context/tex/texmf-context/web2c' from specification 'selfautoparent:/texmf-context/web2c' resolvers | resolving | looking for regular 'texmfcnf.lua' on given path '/usr/home/rmason/context/tex/texmf/web2c' from specification 'selfautoparent:/texmf/web2c' resolvers | resolving | looking for fallback 'contextcnf.lua' on given path '/home/rmason/texmf/web2c' from specification 'home:texmf/web2c' resolvers | resolving | looking for fallback 'contextcnf.lua' on given path '/usr/home/rmason/context/tex/texmf-local/web2c' from specification 'selfautoparent:/texmf-local/web2c' resolvers | resolving | looking for fallback 'contextcnf.lua' on given path '/usr/home/rmason/context/tex/texmf-context/web2c' from specification 'selfautoparent:/texmf-context/web2c' resolvers | resolving | found fallback configuration file '/usr/home/rmason/context/tex/texmf-context/web2c/contextcnf.lua' resolvers | resolving | looking for fallback 'contextcnf.lua' on given path '/usr/home/rmason/context/tex/texmf/web2c' from specification 'selfautoparent:/texmf/web2c' resolvers | resolving | resolvers | resolving | skipping configuration file 'selfautoparent:/texmf-context/web2c/texmfcnf.lua' (no valid format) resolvers | resolving | no texmf paths are defined (using TEXMF) resolvers | resolving | mtxrun | mtxrun | elapsed lua time: 0.045 seconds I infer something (possibly a lot) is missing that the install.sh normally sets up. Thanks, Roger

Hello, Henning Hraban Ramm writes:

I guess you’re lacking the main distribution package.

My installation (tree -dL 4, partly shortened):

. ├── bin (installation only) └── tex ├── texmf-cache (necessary, but auto-created?) │   ├── luametatex-cache │   │   └── context │   └── luatex-cache │   └── context ├── texmf-context (main tree) │   ├── colors

OK, I unpacked the main distribution in context/tex, set PATH and ran mtxrun --generate which output: resolvers | resolving | variable 'SELFAUTOLOC' set to '/usr/home/rmason/context/tex/texmf-freebsd-amd64/bin' resolvers | resolving | variable 'SELFAUTODIR' set to '/usr/home/rmason/context/tex/texmf-freebsd-amd64' resolvers | resolving | variable 'SELFAUTOPARENT' set to '/usr/home/rmason/context/tex' resolvers | resolving | variable 'TEXMFCNF' set to '' resolvers | resolving | variable 'TEXMF' set to '' resolvers | resolving | variable 'TEXOS' set to 'texmf-freebsd-amd64' resolvers | resolving | resolvers | resolving | using configuration specification 'home:texmf/web2c;selfautoparent:/texmf-local/web2c;selfautoparent:/texmf-context/web2c;selfautoparent:/texmf/web2c' resolvers | resolving | resolvers | resolving | looking for regular 'texmfcnf.lua' on given path '/home/rmason/texmf/web2c' from specification 'home:texmf/web2c' resolvers | resolving | looking for regular 'texmfcnf.lua' on given path '/usr/home/rmason/context/tex/texmf-local/web2c' from specification 'selfautoparent:/texmf-local/web2c' resolvers | resolving | looking for regular 'texmfcnf.lua' on given path '/usr/home/rmason/context/tex/texmf-context/web2c' from specification 'selfautoparent:/texmf-context/web2c' resolvers | resolving | looking for regular 'texmfcnf.lua' on given path '/usr/home/rmason/context/tex/texmf/web2c' from specification 'selfautoparent:/texmf/web2c' resolvers | resolving | looking for fallback 'contextcnf.lua' on given path '/home/rmason/texmf/web2c' from specification 'home:texmf/web2c' resolvers | resolving | looking for fallback 'contextcnf.lua' on given path '/usr/home/rmason/context/tex/texmf-local/web2c' from specification 'selfautoparent:/texmf-local/web2c' resolvers | resolving | looking for fallback 'contextcnf.lua' on given path '/usr/home/rmason/context/tex/texmf-context/web2c' from specification 'selfautoparent:/texmf-context/web2c' resolvers | resolving | found fallback configuration file '/usr/home/rmason/context/tex/texmf-context/web2c/contextcnf.lua' resolvers | resolving | looking for fallback 'contextcnf.lua' on given path '/usr/home/rmason/context/tex/texmf/web2c' from specification 'selfautoparent:/texmf/web2c' resolvers | resolving | resolvers | resolving | skipping configuration file 'selfautoparent:/texmf-context/web2c/texmfcnf.lua' (no valid format) resolvers | resolving | no texmf paths are defined (using TEXMF) resolvers | resolving | mtxrun | mtxrun | elapsed lua time: 0.041 seconds Looks like the unset TEXMF and TEXMFCNF envars are a problem. What should they be set to and where should they be set? Thanks, Roger

Hello Hraban, Henning Hraban Ramm writes:

Usually, you don’t need to set any variables. The default configuration file is also fine.

Does "context --version" work?

No: mtxrun | forcing cache reload resolvers | resolving | configuration files already identified resolvers | resolving | skipping configuration file 'selfautoparent:/texmf-context/web2c/texmfcnf.lua' (no valid format) resolvers | resolving | no texmf paths are defined (using TEXMF) resolvers | resolving | mtxrun | the resolver databases are not present or outdated resolvers | resolving | using suffix based filetype 'lua' resolvers | resolving | remembering file 'mtx-context.lua' using hash 'lua::mtx-context.lua' resolvers | resolving | using suffix based filetype 'lua' resolvers | resolving | remembering file 'mtx-contexts.lua' using hash 'lua::mtx-contexts.lua' resolvers | resolving | remembered file 'mtx-context.lua' resolvers | resolving | using suffix based filetype 'lua' resolvers | resolving | remembering file 'mtx-t-mtx-context.lua' using hash 'lua::mtx-t-mtx-context.lua' resolvers | resolving | using suffix based filetype 'lua' resolvers | resolving | remembering file 'mtx-t-mtx-contexts.lua' using hash 'lua::mtx-t-mtx-contexts.lua' resolvers | resolving | remembered file 'mtx-t-mtx-context.lua' resolvers | resolving | remembered file 'mtx-context.lua' mtxrun | unknown script 'mtx-context.lua' or 'mtx-mtx-context.lua' Thanks to all who have helped, but I think it is time to give up on context. I know that context is updated often and I do not relish the prospect of going though all this for every update. Thanks again & best wishes, Roger

Hello Hans, Hans Hagen writes:

On 2/26/2024 12:22 PM, Roger Mason wrote:

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Looks like the unset TEXMF and TEXMFCNF envars are a problem. What should they be set to and where should they be set? fwiw, i'll do an update oen fo these days with the old bin

what you coudl do is download the latest zip and unzip it in texmf-context and then take the ins from the garden build

Please do not go to this trouble on my account. I have decided to give up on context. Best wishes, Roger

Hello Hans, Hans Hagen writes:

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Please do not go to this trouble on my account. I have decided to give up on context. well, i put the older in in the latest anyway

Many thanks, I will give it a try in the next day or so and respond to the list. Best wishes, Roger