On Wed, 9 May 2007 09:19:19 -0400 (EDT), Aditya Mahajan wrote:

On Wed, 9 May 2007, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:

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Hi,

just out of curiosity I wanted to check whether my context could typeset music. I found lilypond mentioned on the list, downloaded lilypond-2.10.23-1.darwin-x86.tar.bz2 from lilypond.org, t-lilypond.pdf from ctan and t-lilypond.tex posted by Henning here.

When I typeset texexec test.test this test file ...

... the result is ...

name: dummy file: lilypond_2-lilypond-1 state: unknown

What is missing?

Do you have write18 enabled? Check the wiki to see how to check if it is enabled, and how to enable it.

Yes, I do: TeXExec | processing document 'lilypond_2.tex' TeXExec | no ctx file found TeXExec | tex processing method: context TeXExec | TeX run 1 TeXExec | writing option file lilypond_2.top TeXExec | using randomseed 870 TeXExec | tex engine: pdfetex TeXExec | tex format: cont-en This is pdfTeXk, Version 3.141592-1.40.3 (Web2C 7.5.6) \write18 enabled. %&-line parsing enabled. (/usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf/web2c/natural.tcx) entering extended mode (./lilypond_2.tex ConTeXt ver: 2007.01.12 15:56 MKII fmt: 2007.4.3 int: english/english ... systems : system commands are enabled system : module lilypond loaded (./t-lilypond.tex) (./lilypond_2.tuo) (./lilypond_2.tuo) (./lilypond_2.tuo) (./lilypond_2.tuo) (./lilypond_2.tuo) (./lilypond_2.tuo) (./lilypond_2.tuo) (./lilypond_2.tuo) (./lilypond_2.tuo) (./lilypond_2.tuo) (/usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/sort-def.tex) (/usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/sort-lan.tex) (./lilypond_2.tuo) (./lilypond_2.tuo) (/usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/pdfr-def.tex)PsToPdf | file lilypond_2-lilypond-1.eps does not exist systems : begin file lilypond_2 at line 3 figures : figure lilypond_2-lilypond-1.pdf can not be found color : mpcmyk color space is supported color : mpspot color space is supported color : system rgb is local activated ... systems : end file lilypond_2 at line 23 ){/usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf-dist/fonts/enc/dvips/lm/lm-ec.enc} Output written on lilypond_2.pdf (1 page, 38475 bytes). Transcript written on lilypond_2.log. TeXUtil | parsing file lilypond_2.tui TeXUtil | shortcuts : 169 TeXUtil | expansions: 308 TeXUtil | reductions: 0 TeXUtil | divisions : 0 TeXUtil | loaded files: 1 TeXUtil | temporary files: 0 TeXUtil | commands: 23 TeXUtil | programs: 0 TeXUtil | tuo file saved TeXExec | runtime: 1.383958

On Wed, 9 May 2007 23:31:00 +0200, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:

Am 2007-05-09 um 13:47 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum:

\enableregime[utf]

...

\usemodule[lilypond]

\starttext

\startlilypond % Telemann, TWV 40:11 \version "2.6.3"

far tool old! use the latest LilyPond 2.10.x! (the module works only with LilyPond > 2.8, as mentioned on the wiki page)

...

\relative c’ {

You've always ’ instead of ' -- that can't work! We need code, not typography!

Pardon?! The example you refer to is from the recent version of "t-lilypond.pdf" from ctan as I wrote in my initial posting (see below). As I had to start somewhere, I thought it's a good start to use the most recent versions of lilypond-2.10.23-1.darwin-x86.tar.bz2 from lilypond.org, t-lilypond.pdf from ctan and t-lilypond.tex that you have posted here last week. I have no idea why this leads to statements like "far tool old" and "We need code, not typography!". But it seems something is wrong here. Steffen On Wed, 9 May 2007 13:47:53 +0200, Steffen Wolfrum wrote: ...

I found lilypond mentioned on the list, downloaded lilypond-2.10.23-1.darwin-x86.tar.bz2 from lilypond.org, t-lilypond.pdf from ctan and t-lilypond.tex posted by Henning here.

When I typeset texexec test.test this test file ...

\usemodule[lilypond]

\starttext

\startlilypond % Telemann, TWV 40:11 \version "2.6.3" \relative c’ { \set Staff.instrument = flute \key fis \minor \time 3/4 \partial 4 r8 fis’8 | fis4. cis8 a cis | fis, a cis fis a fis | b, d fis b d b | eis,, gis cis eis gis b, | a fis’ gis, fis’ cis eis | fis,4 r8 a’ gis fis | e gis, a e’ fis cis | d fis, gis b e d | cis4 \trill r8 cis b a | b dis e gis cis, b | a e’ dis fis b, a | gis4 \trill r8 } \stoplilypond

\stoptext

Steffen

Am 2007-05-10 um 15:44 schrieb Arthur Reutenauer:

* The version of the Lilypond module on CTAN isn't actually that new since it dates back to September 2005 (according to the date of t-lilypond.pdf). Now even without that date, we can spot it in the code since it mentions the version of Lilypond it was typed for (this is a general request in Lilypond); in that case it's 2.6; so Hraban meant your code was old, not your executable (current version is 2.10).

I meant both ;-) I didn't even knew there was a version of t-lilypond on CTAN (overlooked that in Steffen's post). (It's a known problem that ConTeXt versions on CTAN are often outdated, too.) I should update the contextgarden version, but I wanted to wait if Aditya could find the error with Ruby texexec and clean up the code a bit.

In any case, just take the example from the file Hraban just posted and it should solve both problems (it does here). And Hraban should probably add a \version statement to his sample code ;-)

I was tired of the version statements in every snippet, so I let the module add a version statement. It's impossible to take care of different LilyPond versions in one module, so I always try to stick with (and change syntax for) the latest - "always" meaning "everytime I work at a songbook". LilyPond is a rather fast moving target, like ConTeXt, so some code becomes old very soon... Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer)

On 5/10/07, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:

I didn't even knew there was a version of t-lilypond on CTAN (overlooked that in Steffen's post).

You cannot escape the big brother ;)

(It's a known problem that ConTeXt versions on CTAN are often outdated, too.)

If we're speaking about ConTeXt, that's partly intentional. (It gets updated only when Taco explicitely submits it - when he thinks the version is less buggy that on average.) If you're speaking about the modules: updates to CTAN are curretly manual. CTAN team asked for rsync access to the modules. Now they have it, but didn't respond yet. I guess it's not automatic yet ... but should become so sooner or later. Mojca

Am 2007-05-14 um 09:45 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum:

So, after extensive testing (with support from Arthur) using the lilypond-module (as described) just doesn't work at all. What to do now? As it seems to be a question of several parts working / not working together, who feels "responsible"?

Did you try old Perl texexec? (As I wrote several times, LilyPond doesn't get called - or one time at max - with Ruby texexec.) But it seems to need one "Ruby" run afterwards. Sorry, I can't help you further, I just don't understand most of the TeX internals needed. Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer)

Hi, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:

So I guess the command or counter or whatever in \installprogram is expanded at runtime. I tried \expanded, but it didn't help.

Maybe you have a clue?

You have to run \installprogram{} on each separate, expanded commandline. Best wishes, Taco

Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:

2007/5/24, Taco Hoekwater :

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So I guess the command or counter or whatever in \installprogram is expanded at runtime. I tried \expanded, but it didn't help.

You have to run \installprogram{} on each separate, expanded commandline.

I thought that was what I do. \installcommand is run after every buffer. I also tried \expanded{\installcommand{\LP}} and \installcommand{\expanded{\LP}}, but neither did help.

You probably should \edef \LP then?

Aditya Mahajan wrote:

Hi,

There is a bug in texutil.rb Here is a simple test. Create test.tex

strange indeed, mayb esome leftover from the perl version fixed; thanks Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 09:36:15AM +0200, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:

On Wed, 9 May 2007 23:31:00 +0200, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:

...

Am 2007-05-09 um 13:47 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum:

\enableregime[utf]

...

\usemodule[lilypond]

\starttext

\startlilypond % Telemann, TWV 40:11 \version "2.6.3"

far tool old! use the latest LilyPond 2.10.x! (the module works only with LilyPond > 2.8, as mentioned on the wiki page)

...

\relative c? {

You've always ? instead of ' -- that can't work! We need code, not typography!

Pardon?!

The example you refer to is from the recent version of "t-lilypond.pdf" from ctan as I wrote in my initial posting (see below).

As I had to start somewhere, I thought it's a good start to use the most recent versions of lilypond-2.10.23-1.darwin-x86.tar.bz2 from lilypond.org, t-lilypond.pdf from ctan and t-lilypond.tex that you have posted here last week.

I have no idea why this leads to statements like "far tool old" and "We need code, not typography!".

But it seems something is wrong here.

Steffen

I also had my first brush with the lilypond module recently and also started with the example included in the manual. I don't know if I'm right (having no idea about module's inner workings) but it seems that the offending command is \version "2.6.3" after removing it everything went surprisingly smooth. Piotr