On Fri, 27 May 2005, Tobias Burnus wrote:

Should be e.g. for "A4" \special{papersize=210mm,297mm} and for "A5" \special{papersize=148mm,210mm}. If I add this, it actually seems to work here. I failed to create something which obtains the papersize automatically.

Yes, that's the problem. I tried \special{papersize=\paperwidth,\paperheight} and \special{papersize=\PtToCm{\paperwidth},\PtToCm{\paperheight}} Perhaps we need a \PtToMm{...} ? Cheers, Peter -- http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/

\PtToCm contains assignments, so it won't expand. Here is a macro that does basically the same, but in a different order. \def\writepapersize{% \begingroup \dimen0 0.0351459804\paperwidth % 2.54/72.27 \dimen1 0.0351459804\paperheight \special {papersize={\withoutpt\the\dimen0 cm,\withoutpt\the\dimen1 cm}% \endgroup } Taco Tobias Burnus wrote:

Hello,

Peter Münster wrote:

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On Fri, 27 May 2005, Tobias Burnus wrote:

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Should be e.g. for "A4" \special{papersize=210mm,297mm} and for "A5" \special{papersize=148mm,210mm}. If I add this, it actually seems to work here. I failed to create something which obtains the papersize automatically.

Ok, the following works: \special{papersize=\the\paperwidth,\the\paperheight}

It puts (for \setuppapersize[letter][letter]) the following into the DVI file (dvips -d3 test2.dvi 2>&1 |grep special): papersize=614.295pt,794.96999pt which gv shows as letter. Having the right unit (as defined in page-lay.tex, i.e. 148mm×210mm for A5, 8.5in×11in for letter etc.) would be probably better, but this works.

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Yes, that's the problem. I tried \special{papersize=\paperwidth,\paperheight}

That expands to: papersize=\paperwidth ,\paperheight which dvips cannot digest.

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and \special{papersize=\PtToCm{\paperwidth},\PtToCm{\paperheight}}

Whereas that expands to

papersize=\begingroup \scratchdimen \paperwidth \relax \scratchdimen 0.0351459804\scratchdimen 0.0cm\endgroup ,\begingroup \scratchdimen \paperheight \relax \scratchdimen 0.0351459804\scratchdimen 0.0cm\endgroup [1Processing special: papersize=\begingroup \scratchdimen \paperwidth \relax \scratchdimen 0.0351459804\scratchdimen 0.0cm\endgroup ,\begingroup \scratchdimen \paperheight \relax \scratchdimen 0.0351459804\scratchdimen 0.0cm\endgroup

still something dvips cannot digest.

I have to admit, I actually fail to expand \special{papersize=\PtToCm{\the\paperwidth},\PtToCm{\the\paperheight}} correctly. It always ends up as \begingroup ... in the DVI file (i.e. as above with \paperheight|weight replaced by its numerical value).

Tobias

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Tobias Burnus wrote:

Hello,

Peter Münster wrote:

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On Fri, 27 May 2005, Tobias Burnus wrote:

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Should be e.g. for "A4" \special{papersize=210mm,297mm} and for "A5" \special{papersize=148mm,210mm}. If I add this, it actually seems to work here. I failed to create something which obtains the papersize automatically.

Ok, the following works: \special{papersize=\the\paperwidth,\the\paperheight}

It puts (for \setuppapersize[letter][letter]) the following into the DVI file (dvips -d3 test2.dvi 2>&1 |grep special): papersize=614.295pt,794.96999pt which gv shows as letter. Having the right unit (as defined in page-lay.tex, i.e. 148mm×210mm for A5, 8.5in×11in for letter etc.) would be probably better, but this works.

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Yes, that's the problem. I tried \special{papersize=\paperwidth,\paperheight}

That expands to: papersize=\paperwidth ,\paperheight which dvips cannot digest.

...

and \special{papersize=\PtToCm{\paperwidth},\PtToCm{\paperheight}}

Whereas that expands to

papersize=\begingroup \scratchdimen \paperwidth \relax \scratchdimen 0.0351459804\scratchdimen 0.0cm\endgroup ,\begingroup \scratchdimen \paperheight \relax \scratchdimen 0.0351459804\scratchdimen 0.0cm\endgroup [1Processing special: papersize=\begingroup \scratchdimen \paperwidth \relax \scratchdimen 0.0351459804\scratchdimen 0.0cm\endgroup ,\begingroup \scratchdimen \paperheight \relax \scratchdimen 0.0351459804\scratchdimen 0.0cm\endgroup

still something dvips cannot digest.

I have to admit, I actually fail to expand \special{papersize=\PtToCm{\the\paperwidth},\PtToCm{\the\paperheight}} correctly. It always ends up as \begingroup ... in the DVI file (i.e. as above with \paperheight|weight replaced by its numerical value).

how about adding something to spec-tr: \definespecial\dosetuppaper#1#2#3% {\special{papersize=#2,#3}} paper size is already supported in the other backends for ages -) is this special official? Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

Peter Münster wrote:

On Sat, 28 May 2005, Hans Hagen wrote:

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how about adding something to spec-tr:

\definespecial\dosetuppaper#1#2#3% {\special{papersize=#2,#3}}

paper size is already supported in the other backends for ages -)

is this special official?

Hello Hans, I don't know, but here some lines from the dvips man-page:

It's in the dvips manual as well: The format of the papersize special is \special{papersize=8.5in,11in} where the dimensions given above are for a standard letter sheet. The first dimension given is the horizontal size of the page, and the second is the vertical size. The dimensions supported are the same as for TeX; namely, in (inches), cm (centimeters), mm (millimeters), pt (points), sp (scaled points), bp (big points, the same as the default PostScript unit), pc (picas), dd (didot points), and cc (ciceros). For a landscape document, the papersize comment would be given as \special{papersize=11in,8.5in} It appears to be dvips-only, judging from the hyperref .def files. Taco

Hello, Hans Hagen wrote:

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Ok, the following works: \special{papersize=\the\paperwidth,\the\paperheight}

how about adding something to spec-tr: \definespecial\dosetuppaper#1#2#3% {\special{papersize=#2,#3}} Ok. By the way, inserting in pt, cm or mm all works; i.e. this simple definition is ok, one does not need to convert to cm.

is this special official? Hmm, I don't know how official it is, but it is used by hyperref and documented, e.g. at http://www.ifi.uni-klu.ac.at/Public/Documentation/dvips/dvips_3.html; this document is for dvips version 5.58f (January 1995). One can thus expect that is is actually supported by most installed TeXs ;)

Tobias