And just for comparison ... wiki visitors (windows/linux/osx ration highly uncorrelated for my taste): windows 45% linux 32% mac 21% freebsd 0.24% iPhone 0.20% (77 visits) iPad 0.17% (66 visits) android openbsd netbsd iPod SunOS 0.04% (15 visits) unix blackberry symbian playstation 3 nintendo wii nokia OS/2 (1 visit) PalmOS Playstation Portable Samsung

Some newer statistics ... (since August 03)

There are 72550 different jobs in log. There are 920 different IP numbers in log. Bytes sent: 40413672713.

platform linux: 231 platform linux-64: 205 platform linux-ppc: 2

platform osx-64: 185 platform osx-intel: 89 platform osx-ppc: 30

platform mswin: 190

platform freebsd-amd64: 4 platform freebsd: 1 platform kfreebsd-i386: 1 platform kfreebsd-amd64: 1 platform solaris-intel: 1

On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 11:20, Hans Hagen wrote:

On 14-10-2010 10:31, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

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And just for comparison ... wiki visitors (windows/linux/osx ration highly uncorrelated for my taste):

I assume that you keep these statistics somewhere so that some day we can make a nice graphic of changes in platforms and such (esp 32/64 bit and so).

At the moment there's only a log file on contextgarden.net (that gets deleted every now and then), so we need to push that into some database and keep its backups. (I have SQL statements ready, just no database yet ...) Mojca

On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 11:20, Hans Hagen wrote:

I assume that you keep these statistics somewhere so that some day we can make a nice graphic of changes in platforms and such (esp 32/64 bit and so).

Well, I can tell you that there will be a an "inverse" Heaviside step function on some particular architecture of some particular platform soon after 20th October ... (joke aside: we need to figure out what to do with it some time pretty soon ...) Mojca

On 14-10-2010 4:16, Arthur Reutenauer wrote:

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(joke aside: we need to figure out what to do with it some time pretty soon ...)

Which one is it? osx-ppc?

my guess too Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

It must have something to do with the TeX lion?

See ... Knuth knew exactly what the right timing for announcing iTeX was :) Mojca

Well, I wonder why ipad is not mentioned as platform as I saw luatex running on it at the conference.

Hans, you need to adapt MKIV to run on iPad first :) Mojca

On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 16:16, Arthur Reutenauer wrote:

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(joke aside: we need to figure out what to do with it some time pretty soon ...)

 Which one is it?  osx-ppc?

Apple will probably release 10.7 (Lion) very soon. My coworkers already have the latest XCode 4 (beta) that (from what I remember) don't come with Tiger support any more. I didn't check whether they support PPC, but I highly doubt it. They have put a lot of effort into LLVM support. I have tried to compile LuaTeX using LLVM, but I didn't test the performance differences yet (and it's also pretty non-trivial to test). So ... new XCode is there, new OS is almost there ... but there are still four to eight times more users than those of all the non-mswin/linux/mac platforms combined ... Wiki statistics: - intel 10.6: 80.5% - intel 10.5: 13.8% - intel 10.4: 2.20 % - all ppc: 3.22 % Mojca I wonder ... when we started providing the minimals and building them on the latest version of OS (Tiger), there was no single Panther user complaining. But there are so many PPC and Tiger users now ...

On 14-10-2010 5:52, Arthur Reutenauer wrote:

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So ... new XCode is there, new OS is almost there ... but there are still four to eight times more users than those of all the non-mswin/linux/mac platforms combined ...

I still have the old G3 I bought, running 10.3...

ah .. one of those machines with special apple only scsi disks and cdroms .. what a pain Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------